the 6th panorama

I.”at some circumstances, slavery means a total freedom and pain means a total happiness”
talking with myself while i was walking
II. “I don’t believe in god, i don’t really like the concept of organized religion but at the same time, i don’t consider my self as an atheist”
An american friend talking to me about religion
III. “women enjoy sex too! their orgasm is twice as men orgasm”
one of my friend talking to me about sexuality from women perspective

IV. “i know myself,, saudi women can’t fit with my lifestyle” saudi student explaining to me why he doesn’t want to marry a saudi girl

V.”human beings can’t invent lie, they can produce it.. produce it from their past, from something they hide so long or something they fear to tell”
” talking to one of my friend about how we can learn so much about a person through his lies”

VI.”yes, we had sex several times”
saudi classmate talking openly about his sexual relationship with his girlfriend

VII. “my family get so angry and upset when they knew that i am in relationship with an american girl. they said that their reputation was ruined because of that” a saudi guy telling me about his problem with his family. it is count unacceptable in saudi culture to be in relationship with a girl without a marriage contract

VIII. “Wallah, it is very hard to describe my feeling, she came to me with her nude body and dance around me, seduced me.. but i couldn’t touch her*.. i feel like i am weak,, or slave to her body”
saudi guy describing to me his experience in nudity-topless bar.
* in nudity bar, people aren’t allowed to touch the nude girls unless she give them the permission or the client pay more or something,,, that is what the guy told me, but i am not sure though if that is true or not!
IX.”there are many thing  in life that can’t be seen or touched”
my respond to one of my friend when she ask me if i have seen god visually
X.”just like i survived 18 years in my country without meeting myself”
” my respond to my friend when he asked me: how could you survive 3 years in US without meeting your family?”
XI. “when you suffer so many times, pain would become your companion, you wouldn’t feel the pain but rather the joy that comes with it”
a friend talking  to me,,,( just like i expected,, people enjoy pain more than happiness )

XII.“Eventualism isn’t designed to answer all questions. It’s designed to question all answers” one of my friend believe Eventualism, i love to have friend who has a different ideologies

XIII. “I believe in myself slowly, it takes all of the doubts i’ve got. it takes my wonder”
reading a post on tri-met bus
note:
please don’t make any generalization based on one individual observation of these, individual represent only themselves
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5 thoughts on “the 6th panorama

  1. Saudi in US

    Nice observations Murtadha:

    ” i don’t believe in god, i don’t really like the concept of organized religion but at the same time, i don’t consider my self as an atheist”
    An american friend talking to me about religion
    – This one is not surprising most American nonbelievers try to avoid the “A” word, because most associate it with communism which are not the same thing.

    ” women enjoy sex too! their orgasm is twice as men orgasm”
    one of my friend talking to me about sexuality from women perspective
    – Then why do they give us such a hard time. I mean all these flowers, dinners, pretending to listen, etc. It turned out we were doing them a bigger favor. Women are evil I tell you 🙂

    “just like i survived 18 years in my country without meeting myself”
    ” my respond to my friend when he asked me: how could you survive 3 years in US without meeting your family?”
    I like this one Murtadha. It is a keeper..

    “Eventualism isn’t designed to answer all questions. It’s designed to question all answers”
    one of my friend believe Eventualism, i love to have friend who has a different ideologies
    -WOW, sorry your friend needs a deeper basis for believes than a concept from a movie. Even if it was a smart one.

    I enjoyed the quotes,

    Cheers

  2. Murtadha

    Saudi in US :
    “This one is not surprising most American nonbelievers try to avoid the “A” word, because most associate it with communism which are not the same thing.”
    – to be honest, i was a little confused about the issue and had no idea about (WHY),, but now it make sense to me after reading your clarification!

    “Then why do they give us such a hard time. I mean all these flowers, dinners, pretending to listen, etc. It turned out we were doing them a bigger favor. Women are evil I tell you :)”

    hahah 🙂 it seems we are all evil 🙂
    the issue of SEX and EMOTION is very intersting,, i am trying to spend some times to understand the relationship between these two on both genders,,, for me, it was very hard to understand the issue from women perspective but now , i began to get some idea around it ! very close friend of me ( american girl) is willing actually to answer my questions openly! and that would help me alot to extend my panorama to all other angles!
    i know a topic like ..SEX and EMOTION is forbiden in saudi soceity and considered to be a taboo ! but this is why i think it is very important to open it up! and since i am trying to be neutral in my panorma ,helpfully i would be able to present to every side of the arugment

    “WOW, sorry your friend needs a deeper basis for believes than a concept from a movie. Even if it was a smart one. “

    -i know,, u r absoulty right,,, young people at some period of their life ,, like to make a revolution on their old ideology by making one up!
    i have expereinced it in the past:)) and it really make sense to me why are some people are doing it :))

    thanks a lot for the ur time,, for ur words ,,and for the kindness that always comes from you 🙂

  3. pam lofamia

    Believeing in God is a decision and that’s your’s i He would reveal His sovereignity to you in ways you least expected…

    Well i guesss flowers and all other stuffs are part of wooing a girl’s heart and winning his attention and that is the societal norms.and we lived up to it..but as for me i like those stuffs yet i prefer best friend status werein both of you wont pretend, be natural to your feelings and later be who you really are coz in the end thats wat all will really matter. So long as love is there then sex will always be there but the center of each relationships should be filial!

    Believe in yourself!and know that you stand for. Be confident that the whole world is on your side so long as you are true to yourself and to the world!

    God bless!!!

  4. Murtadha

    dear pam lofamia,
    thank you first for taking time in writing this thoughtful comment.

    -“Believeing in God is a decision and that’s your’s i He would reveal His sovereignity to you in ways you least expected”

    i totally agree with you,, this is why we can’t force anyone to believe in god,,,this is why we should leave people decide for themselves,,,

    – ” be natural to your feelings and later be who you really are coz in the end thats wat all will really matter”

    i do agree with u in ur comment too,,, but there is a reality that we need to admit,,, people always act as they are someone else,,,
    society,,, family,, friend,,, control the part of their destiny at many circumstances!

    -“Believe in yourself!and know that you stand for. Be confident that the whole world is on your side so long as you are true to yourself and to the world!”

    i have a different advise,,
    believe in your self,, and never believe that the world will be in your side,,, so prepare your self to fight your ego first and the world second 🙂
    and when you find your self with no fight, you are actually dead… there has to be a fight for us to survive!

    i really enjoy your comments,,, please keep it up,,, and never disappear 🙂

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